tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102451431033041663.post221236113710802084..comments2024-03-28T21:08:32.637+05:30Comments on Tomichan Matheikal's blog: Science and nonsenseTomichan Matheikalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05037872309096060126noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102451431033041663.post-183600035131924412014-03-27T17:15:33.127+05:302014-03-27T17:15:33.127+05:30:)
And God said, "Let the bloody thing come i...:)<br />And God said, "Let the bloody thing come into my realms. I'll handle it. There are the Indras and Ravanas. I'll handle them. I am God. I am happy that you are promoting me."Tomichan Matheikalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05037872309096060126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102451431033041663.post-8266950496073269542014-03-27T17:01:55.308+05:302014-03-27T17:01:55.308+05:30Good post, for all you agnostics, atheists out the...Good post, for all you agnostics, atheists out there. But for me, I would stand by the ISRO director in him seeking a second opinion simply because it seems he doesn’t that much trust his own men and women who made this stuff. <br /><br />Also since the director has not disclosed the outcome of this ritual, i’m left to imagine,and this is what would have happened.<br /><br />a) God looks at the miniature, tells him to do few re-alignments or improvements and sends him back asking him to come back with a more realistic replica preferably with few diamonds on it(Come on, he is in-charge of Tirupati, he has his expenses)<br />b) God is kind of busy and says “shoot it up dude, I’ll take care” to gets rid off him. <br />c) God ignores him because he is ISRO director and knows that he is eyeing next on the PMs scientific advisor post then to a union minister and then ultimately will aim for Gods own chair(Btw, he is from God’s own country)<br />d) Pujari goofs-up by over-smoking and God fails to get a clear picture, burns his eyes and gets annoyed, curses the rocket to go into Indian ocean<br />e) God refuses to intervene till ISRO discloses the full financials of the rocket making exercise<br />f) ...Gurujihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01979180240055800364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102451431033041663.post-80255000550334989642014-03-27T16:00:06.955+05:302014-03-27T16:00:06.955+05:30But, Pankti, Dr Radhakrishnan is a scientist. A s...But, Pankti, Dr Radhakrishnan is a scientist. A scientist has to choose words carefully, as carefully as in a scientific formula. He is the saint of the present times :)<br /><br />More seriously, the answer is NO. Psychological boost is an ego-enhancing trick. Humility is an ego-deflating understanding. Tomichan Matheikalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05037872309096060126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102451431033041663.post-57373876793188159792014-03-27T15:57:28.262+05:302014-03-27T15:57:28.262+05:30I read your post and have expressed my view there....I read your post and have expressed my view there. My response here wouldn't be different.<br /><br />Science in India is succumbing to pressures from religion and traders. Politicians as well. But politicians today are like prostitutes who lie with anyone. Dr Radhakrishnan shouldn't have capitulated so much, I reiterate. <br />Tomichan Matheikalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05037872309096060126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102451431033041663.post-43012377303562496092014-03-27T15:42:05.712+05:302014-03-27T15:42:05.712+05:30Thank you, Niranjan, especially for thinking of me...Thank you, Niranjan, especially for thinking of me when you came across a particular article related to religion. <br /><br />I totally agree with your view on the cultural influence. I have seen thousands of people in India (different states) who suffer from this problem. We have been brought up to live in straitjackets, it looks like. The moment we are out of the straitjacket, we feel like fish out of water. But the terrible paradox is that we have adopted the western culture in many spheres: soft drinks, pubs, dress, cinema, internet...!Tomichan Matheikalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05037872309096060126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102451431033041663.post-72105381915800392252014-03-27T15:26:41.357+05:302014-03-27T15:26:41.357+05:30Kokila, living as an atheist in India is difficult...Kokila, living as an atheist in India is difficult. So you remain neutral without making a commitment. You can't afford to offend your family. I was a victim of the same situation in my youth. Tomichan Matheikalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05037872309096060126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102451431033041663.post-75763395156973558592014-03-27T14:01:07.126+05:302014-03-27T14:01:07.126+05:30Isn't the admission of receiving “Psychologica...Isn't the admission of receiving “Psychological boost” from the prayer humility itself? :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17846323466187478742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102451431033041663.post-44728931739190452742014-03-27T11:26:22.640+05:302014-03-27T11:26:22.640+05:30Well, I am completely against the makes-no-sense p...Well, I am completely against the makes-no-sense practices of any religion that was unfortunately man-made and still continues in this post-modern age !! ...But in this case, I think the "psychological boost" does not echo any lack of confidence but rather seems to mean what you have aptly reflected in these lines- "If the scientist had said that his religious ritual was a symbol of his surrender to the ultimate mystery that lies beyond his reason, a sign of his humble admission of the limitations of his faculty, I would have accepted it happily. Humility is a virtue. Nonsense is not compatible with science." I don't judge that a man of Dr K Radhakrisnan's stature could be superstitious !!<br /><br />By the way, 2-3 days ago I have penned down a similar article (incidentally, it also ends with the same thoughts :-) ) - http://aamjunta.wordpress.com/2014/03/24/is-universe-the-ultimate-free-lunch-cosmic-inflation-to-intellectual-inflation/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102451431033041663.post-87924057294003785292014-03-27T09:55:48.390+05:302014-03-27T09:55:48.390+05:30very well written sir. Few days back, I read a sur...very well written sir. Few days back, I read a survey were most of the scientists are atheists or agnostics. And the scientists who were religious, most of them hailed from Asia. I wanted to send you that link, but could not find it. I think it is the cultural influence which stops people from thinking beyond. As someone has said, you should either believe Science or religion. I think this scientist might be an agnostic or atheist, but sometimes he has to act according to the people besides him, who are religious, ( they might be in the same field too). May be he is a believer, or never could dare to question the mystery. RAN IN JAN https://www.blogger.com/profile/09930714780995208578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102451431033041663.post-34005667994346283352014-03-27T09:29:42.204+05:302014-03-27T09:29:42.204+05:30I am in full agreement with you.. "........t...I am in full agreement with you.. "........the ultimate mystery that lies beyond his reason, a sign of his humble admission of the limitations of his faculty......." My being less religious is already a scandal in itself at my in-laws place (thankfully my better half follows the rituals and all for me and my family...sigh.) But I am not an atheist.Kokila guptahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14992236728883850513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102451431033041663.post-84441391648505725572014-03-26T21:01:04.495+05:302014-03-26T21:01:04.495+05:30Thanks, Sakshi, for your endorsement. Thanks, Sakshi, for your endorsement. Tomichan Matheikalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05037872309096060126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102451431033041663.post-81239059648203576172014-03-26T20:59:32.010+05:302014-03-26T20:59:32.010+05:30I describe myself as an agnostic, Namrata. In pra...I describe myself as an agnostic, Namrata. In practice, I am an atheist because I live paying no attention whatever to god(s). I think it is the duty of each individual to be intellectually honest, and my intellectual honesty finds it impossible to accept god(s). But I understand human feelings and emotions. I understand the emotional needs. I can tolerate religious practices because of that. But when a scientist goes to this extent, I find myself laughing. And a bit scandalised too. <br /><br />Thanks for the compliments. I'm happy too about that 6 digit mark.Tomichan Matheikalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05037872309096060126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102451431033041663.post-58153751516241312322014-03-26T20:51:15.245+05:302014-03-26T20:51:15.245+05:30Oh this is a very well thought-out piece, one quot...Oh this is a very well thought-out piece, one quoting from my favourite authors and presenting its case really well. Loved this, Tomichan. And I agree - "If the scientist had said that his religious ritual was a symbol of his surrender to the ultimate mystery that lies beyond his reason, a sign of his humble admission of the limitations of his faculty, I would have accepted it happily. Humility is a virtue. Nonsense is not compatible with science." Sakshihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13127774513800413908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102451431033041663.post-3321908731827477812014-03-26T19:28:25.911+05:302014-03-26T19:28:25.911+05:30I really find the scientist's explanation a no...I really find the scientist's explanation a non-sense. I don't know who created religion but God is not human's creation. I believe in God. I haven't seen him. But there's a positive feeling, the goodness that I feel within me. Something that keeps me righteous, that's what I name as God. And this belief cannot be a superstition. Further, it's difficult to state any practice as an act of superstition. Who knows that there is some greater force adding up meaning to these so called 'superstitious' practices? <br /><br />Congrats for 1 lac visits on your blog. Cheers! :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03138707352343274950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102451431033041663.post-33687026302864834312014-03-26T19:25:06.102+05:302014-03-26T19:25:06.102+05:30This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03138707352343274950noreply@blogger.com