tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102451431033041663.post8280925131435659800..comments2024-03-29T15:39:08.301+05:30Comments on Tomichan Matheikal's blog: Beef sentiments in KeralaTomichan Matheikalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05037872309096060126noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102451431033041663.post-70270838597710889692017-05-29T22:28:57.721+05:302017-05-29T22:28:57.721+05:30In practice, it is equal to ban on beef altogether...In practice, it is equal to ban on beef altogether. Dear Durga ji, it has been a very shrewd movement to deny certain communities their food as well as certain traditions. The makers of this ordinance are so crooked that it can be interpreted in umpteen ways. What you have given is one such interpretation. The ordinance destroys the livelihood of thousands of people in the country. If you want details i can provide. Tomichan Matheikalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05037872309096060126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102451431033041663.post-28689523496944169792017-05-29T20:51:08.968+05:302017-05-29T20:51:08.968+05:30there has neither been a beef ban nor cow slaughte...there has neither been a beef ban nor cow slaughter. The following newspaper article describes it the best<br /><br />http://www.firstpost.com/politics/centres-cattle-slaughter-restrictions-keralas-protests-over-non-existent-beef-ban-are-counter-intuitive-3493771.htmlDurga Prasad Dashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10467260250493150980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102451431033041663.post-67273991508503765202017-05-29T19:54:00.451+05:302017-05-29T19:54:00.451+05:30Your last comment relieves me more than you can im...Your last comment relieves me more than you can imagine. I would have been sad otherwise. Because I'm one who had a lot of admiration for Hinduism as a dharma until it was degenerated into the present day Hindutva and my admiration can now be only be expressed with a veil over it. What I lament is the degeneration of a great philosophy into a proposed monolithic, and possibly a monotheistic, religion. Well, I won't explain it any further.Tomichan Matheikalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05037872309096060126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102451431033041663.post-27540767464371416692017-05-29T08:45:42.649+05:302017-05-29T08:45:42.649+05:30I think you got me wrong here, I am against holdin...I think you got me wrong here, I am against holding open fest of consuming meat which might offend people of other religions. Not against consumption of meat in their personal spaces. <br />BJP is perhaps restricting the consumption of a particular meat and it is fair enough to protest. But protesting in such a manner? That's where I had the problem. <br /><br />Yes, I am too slow to grab hold of certain meanings in between the lines 😂Pranju chakrapanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12605609220545623439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102451431033041663.post-65576188925134788282017-05-29T08:36:09.117+05:302017-05-29T08:36:09.117+05:30I drew a comparison with muslim countries, yes. Bu...I drew a comparison with muslim countries, yes. But I also wrote about predominantly Muslim populated areas in India. Can I openly hold a grand fest of pork consumption in such places? In silchar, a part of assam, there is a huge Muslim population and I had trouble finding pork meat there.<br />I find holding on to a fixed ideology quite disastrous to ones mental well being. It brings in a lot of self agitation.<br />Why can't we look at the wrongs at both the roads. <br /><br />Oh, blaming Hindus is liberal but blaming Muslims is blasphemy? See, I hate pseudo liberals as well as pro Hindu bhakts. <br />Why can't we seek a middle path instead. Why do we have to be a stickler to argumentative ideologies.Pranju chakrapanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12605609220545623439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102451431033041663.post-45924756854868998042017-05-29T08:22:13.019+05:302017-05-29T08:22:13.019+05:30I could easily get a teaching job in one of the Gu...I could easily get a teaching job in one of the Gulf countries and they pay handsome salary. But I refused to go there precisely because of the religious bigotry that prevails there. I would have been dead long ago if I were working in a Muslim country. So the parallel you are drawing is justified. <br /><br />But I chose to stay in India which pays me a pittance because India at least affords me the liberty to believe in whatever I like and speak my views openly. If India becomes like a Muslim country, then what's great about it anymore? Why should I stay in this country earning a salary which doesn't even permit me to live with a fraction of the luxury that my democratically elected leaders can afford? I hope you get the point. This comparison or contrast with Muslim countries is the worst logic I have seen in India. We had that tradition of what Amartya Sen called argumentativeness. We respected diversity of all sorts. BJP is destroying that great tradition for selfish political purposes. It's a greater tragedy than what you have understood, I think. Tomichan Matheikalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05037872309096060126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102451431033041663.post-17755791641949253272017-05-28T22:46:51.168+05:302017-05-28T22:46:51.168+05:30I agree. But let me put forward a hypothesis
Let...I agree. But let me put forward a hypothesis <br /><br />Let's take a different situation. Our state is a state where pork is consumed in a significant amount. We have our various local indigenous pork dishes.<br /><br />Had our state been in a Muslim dominated country, would we be allowed to hold a pork fest openly to oppose restrictions? We would have been beheaded.<br /><br />But in India, we can protest in such forms openly and audaciously. We enjoy freedom or perhaps we are testing our limits of freedom. <br /><br />Can I hold a pork fest in darker places of muzzafarpur or in dulhagarh?<br /><br />I love all kind of red meats, most probably because of our cultural integration with various tribes in North east but how far and till which limits of geographical location can we dare to protest in such audacity?<br /><br />The issue is not with BJP it can as much be the same with a democratic Muslim party. Oh hell, the issue is with religious sentiments of dumb people. Pranju chakrapanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12605609220545623439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102451431033041663.post-5012392147481461842017-05-28T21:21:27.731+05:302017-05-28T21:21:27.731+05:30Nothing religious about it. The ban is politically...Nothing religious about it. The ban is politically motivated. Its purpose is elimination of certain communities of people by denying them their traditions and food. Both food and traditions are integral for a people's survival. Tomichan Matheikalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05037872309096060126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102451431033041663.post-44573824385335040612017-05-28T21:08:22.466+05:302017-05-28T21:08:22.466+05:30Forbidden food tastes better than others. BJP want...Forbidden food tastes better than others. BJP wanted a chance to humiliate others and they got it in beef. If not why would they want to ban it when the Ramadan begin. It's nothing religious to ban beef. Even if it is constitution of India is above all government and judiciary as long as it is amended. Constitution defines india as a secular state and ensures liberty of faith. Then on what basis can they say the need ban is religious. If it is religious how can one society force it on other society in a country which gives no religion special privilege and promise liberty and. None to be knownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03820881452804784816noreply@blogger.com